She could have built a brilliant career in Hollywood and become a star on the world screen, but she preferred the domestic theater stage and filming in low-budget Soviet films. One of the most beautiful Soviet actresses of the 20th century, Lyudmila Chursina, never used her appearance to achieve her goals. Decency, pride and love of freedom did not allow her to make deals with her own conscience. Despite the many shocks that Lyudmila Alekseevna had to endure, she is still in demand in the profession and loved by fans of her work.
Brief information about the actress
- Full name: Chursina Lyudmila Alekseevna.
- Age - 77 years.
- Date of birth: 07/20/41.
- Place of birth: USSR, Tajik SSR, Stalinabad.
- Height/weight - 177 cm/70 kg.
- Field of activity: theater and film actress.
- Zodiac sign - cancer
- The main awards and achievements are People’s Artist of the RSFSR and USSR (1969 and 1981), Silver Shell for the best actress at the XVII IFF in San Sebastian (1969), Best Actress according to the magazine “Soviet Screen” (1969), State Prize of the RSFSR named after. Vasilyev brothers (1970), Order of Merit for the Fatherland, IV degree (2000), laureate of the White Cranes of Russia competition (2018).
- Marital status: divorced, no children.
Height, weight, age. How old is Lyudmila Chursina
Height, weight, age, how old is Lyudmila Chursina - these questions are interesting, but not at all difficult. The popular film actress weighs 70 kg and is 174 cm tall. She looks gorgeous for her age. This year the woman will turn 77 years old. But she is given much less years than she really is.
Lyudmila Chursina, whose photos in her youth and now are quite easy to find on the Internet, travels a lot. Currently she loves to draw and cross stitch. The artist gives crafts to her friends and colleagues.
The star of Soviet and Russian cinema devotes a large place in his life to sports. Every day she does a special set of exercises that allows her to stay in good shape and maintain a good mood.
Childhood of Lyudmila Chursina
Before the war, the family of the future actress lived in the city of Velikiye Luki, Pskov region. Nazi air raids and bombings forced Lyudmila's parents to evacuate to relatively calm Tajikistan. According to one version, the girl was born on a train on the way to Stalinabad (Dushanbe). From 1941 until the end of the war, she lived in Central Asia with her mother. Alexey Fedorovich Chursinets - Lyudmila's father - went to the front and fought on the North-Western Front. In 1942 he was awarded the Order of the Red Star.
After the war, the family lived in the Far East, the Arctic and the Caucasus. Alexey Fedorovich was a career military man, and he often had to change his place of service. Mother Genovefa Ivanovna began working as a military medic and traveled to the garrisons for her husband along with her little daughter.
Little Luda went to Tbilisi for first grade - sunny and hospitable Georgia became her second home for a long time. Here the future actress became imbued with the original Caucasian customs, learned the Georgian language, and fell in love with folklore, especially songs.
When the girl finished 6th grade, her parents decided to return to their home in Velikiye Luki. Lyudmila, who was especially good at exact sciences, graduated from a local school with a gold medal. The graduate was dreaming about a career as an aircraft design engineer, but an accident forced her to reconsider her outlook on life.
Actress's childhood
The first interesting fact in the biography of Lyudmila Chursina is the story of her birth. According to official information, she was born in Stalinabad (present Dushanbe). However, according to other sources, the mother of the great actress gave birth on a train, when the family was evacuated from the city of Velikiye Luki (Pskov region) to Tajikistan, far from military operations. Lyudmila was born on the road near the village of Gruzdevo in the same Pskov region. But the parents managed to register the child only upon arrival at their destination - Stalinabad.
Lyudmila’s father is Alexey Fedorovich Chursinets, a career military man. However, the actress herself said in an interview that her dad’s real name is Chursinias. He was Latvian by nationality, and not Ukrainian, as was officially stated. Mom - Genovefa Ivanovna Chursina, a doctor by profession.
The Chursin family did not stay anywhere for a long time - this was due to Alexei Fedorovich’s military service. However, they spent all the years of the Great Patriotic War in Stalinabad. Then the Arctic, the Caucasus, Chukotka, Kamchatka... Lyudmila went to school in Tbilisi. She remembers how she fell in love with Georgian songs then. She was known as a hooligan in class. “I came to my senses” only after returning to Velikiye Luki. Lyudmila preferred the exact sciences - geometry, physics. It is noteworthy that the girl graduated from school with a gold medal.
Youth and choice of life path
Young Lyudmila went to Moscow to enter the aviation institute, and with a friend she decided to visit theater universities. The girls applied to 3 educational institutions at once: GITIS, VGIK and the Shchukin School. Luda was accepted into each of them, but her friend failed the exams.
Deciding that fate itself was telling her the right path, Lyudmila remained in the capital and began studying acting at “Pike.” In the mornings before classes started, the student washed the floors in the classrooms - she had to earn her own living. She graduated from college in 1963.
Biography of Lyudmila Chursina
The biography of Lyudmila Chursina is a complex story. There is a version that she was born during the bombing, that the birth caught her mother on the road when she was going to visit relatives. For the future actress, the entire war took place in Tajikistan, but after it ended, they traveled throughout the country. For a long time, the girl stayed from Georgia, where she went to school, and graduated there.
I must say that Lyudmila did not intend to become an actress, she did not even think about it. However, she went to Moscow with a friend for company, where she was able to enter the theater school. The irony was that her friend did not enroll, although she really wanted to. In the early sixties, the girl graduated from a theater university, after which she began working in the theater. Moreover, she started working as an extra, where she tried to at least somehow reveal her potential. But a little later, she began to receive independent roles, and very interesting ones. She thought she would make a career in the theater, but quite suddenly switched to working in cinema.
The beginning of theatrical creativity
The young actress began her career at the Theater. Vakhtangov. She was invited to join Ruben Simonov's troupe. At first she played roles in crowd scenes, but she did it so skillfully that she was soon noticed by famous directors. She played her first serious role in the play “Richard III” based on Shakespeare’s play of the same name. Chursina reincarnated as Lady Anna, one of the central characters of the play. Her partner was Mikhail Ulyanov, who was already a sought-after actor at that time.
After working in the theater for 3 years, Lyudmila took a time out and set off to conquer the cinematic Olympus. She began acting in films while still a student at the Shchukin Theater School. Chursina’s roles were successful, and she decided to improve her skills as a film actress.
Continuation of theatrical career
In 1974, the actress returned to the theater stage, but in Leningrad. This time her main place of work was the Alexandrinsky Theater. The actress combined performances with filming at Lenfilm.
In the early 80s, Lyudmila Alekseevna was invited to the Theater of the Soviet (today Russian) Army. Without hesitation, she returned to Moscow. Chursina was attracted by the role of Nastasya Filippovna from Dostoevsky’s “The Idiot,” which she had long dreamed of playing. The actress's partners in the play were Aristarkh Livanov, Vladimir Zeldin and Alexander Petrov. Later, Lyudmila Alekseevna admitted that her transformation into a proud and unapproachable beauty took a lot of mental strength from her, but it was this image that grateful viewers remembered and loved.
Nastasya Filippovna was followed by high-profile roles in theatrical productions “Masquerade” and “Farewell Light”. The heroines that Chursina played on stage were entirely strong and strong-willed individuals, each image required complete dedication. Performances and rehearsals took all the energy of the actress, but they also gave inspiration and self-confidence.
Lyudmila Chursina on the theater stage today
Lyudmila Alekseevna has not changed her favorite theater for many years. She plays in performances of the Army Theater's current repertoire:
- “Elinor and Her Men” is a tragic farce in 2 acts (premiere: December 2011). The role of the disgraced Queen Elinor of Aquitaine.
- “Playing on the Keys of the Soul” is a parable play (premiere: November 2013). The role of the brilliant German pianist Liv Stein.
- “That Madman Platonov” is a comedy in 2 acts (premiere: January 2021). The role of General Anna Petrovna Voinitseva.
Fans of Chursina highly appreciate her acting skills, feminine charm, beauty, plasticity and grace. Lyudmila Alekseevna’s ability to hold the attention of the audience for 2 hours in monotonous productions evokes admiration and admiration. Performances with the participation of the actress are sold out.
Chursina Lyudmila Alekseevna
Roles in the theater
Russian Army Theater
"The Idiot" by F. M. Dostoevsky - Nastasya Filippovna "Masquerade" by M. Yu. Lermontov - Baroness Shtral "Farewell Light" by P. I. Pavlovsky - Ernestina Tyutchev "Private Soldiers" by A. A. Dudarev "Leningrader" by A. M. Chervinsky "God save the king!" W. S. Maugham - Eve “Duet for Soloist” T. Kempinski - Stephanie Abrahams “Paul I” by D. S. Merezhkovsky - Maria Feodorovna “She Who is Not Waited for” A. Casona - Death “Elinor and Her Men” J. Goldman - Queen Elinor of Aquitaine "Playing on the Keys of the Soul" Nino Kharatishvili - Liv, famous pianist
Enterprises
“Theater Marathon” “An Ideal Husband”, dir. P. Safonov “Empress”
Filmography
1961 - When the trees were big - Zoya 1962 - On the seven winds - Nastya, nurse 1963 - Morning trains - Tonechka 1964 - The Don Tale - Daria 1965 - Pursuit - worker 1965 - A year like life - Ilsa 1966 - Two tickets to the afternoon session - Inka -Estona 1967-Spring on the Oder-Tanya 1967-Andromeda's nebula-Luma Lasvi 1968-Virinea-Virinea 1968-Zhuravushka-Martha 1968-Ryazanka Tatyana 1968-Shield and Sword-Freily-Efreitor 1969-Adjutant of his Excellency-Oksana 1969 - Gloomy River - Anfisa Petrovna Kozyreva 1970 - Lyubov Yarovaya - Lyubov Yarovaya 1971 - Olesya - Olesya 1971 - Are you kidding? - actress 1971 - Goya, or The Hard Path of Knowledge - Pepa 1972 - On the corner of Arbat and Bubulinas Street - Ksenia 1972 - Privalov's millions - Zosya Lyakhovskaya 1972 - The fight - Hannah Eckert 1973 - Open book - Tatyana Petrovna Vlasenkova 1976 - The Tale of How Tsar Peter married the Arab - Empress Catherine I 1976 - Own opinion - Burtseva 1976 - Diary of Carlos Espinola - nun 1977 - And it's all about him - Anna 1977 - Personal happiness - Anastasia Mikhailovna Doroshina 1979 - Pursuit race - Claudia 1980 - Rico Brothers - mother Julia 1981 - On the Garnet Islands - Katlen Gabu 1981 - To remember or forget - Nina Yanson 1981 - Facts of the past day - Ksenia Pavlovna Mikheeva 1981 - Long road in the dunes - Katerina 1982 - Monomakh's hat - school principal 1982 - Fight at the crossroads - Yunna's mother 1983 - Demidovs - Empress Catherine I 1983 - Jewelry - Zoya Semyonovna Malinina / Tatyana Semyonovna Malinina 1986 - Primordial Rus' - Anya 1986 - Dossier of a man in a Mercedes - Svetlana 1987 - The investigation is being conducted by Experts. Boomerang - Veronika Antonovna Bylova 1987 - White roses, pink elephants... (television play) - Molly Egan 1990 - Love of an elderly man - Irina Dmitrievna Sinelnikova 1990 - Murder of a witness - Svetova 1991 - Countess - Nina Grigorievna 1991 - Sukhovo-Kobylin case - Maria Ivanovna Sukhovo -Kobylina 1991 - It’s not scary to die - Irina 1992 - 1994 - Goryachev and others - Zinaida Vasilievna, Goryachev’s mother 1993 - Code of dishonor - Sergei Rebrov’s mother 1994 - Hagi-Tragger - Natalya 2000 - Black Room 2002 - Secret power - Katerina Stepanovna, mother Nastya 2003 - Another life - Katya's mother 2004 - Lost the sun - Ekaterina Vasilyevna, mother of Kesha Solityansky 2004 - A place in the sun - Katya's mother 2004 - Nadezhda is the last to leave - Lidia Mikhailovna, Nadezhda's mother-in-law 2005 - Two at the Christmas tree, not counting the dog - Lyusya, the owner's wife 2005 - The true story of Lieutenant Rzhevsky - grandmother 2005 - Trotter - Commissioner 2006 - Make God laugh - Sofya Grigorievna, fellow traveler on the train 2006 - Vaccine - Tamara Galata 2007 - Chasing an angel - Maria 2007 - Hold me tight - Victoria Svyatoslavovna 2007 - Home on the Promenade des Anglais - Anna 2007 - Zastava - Latnikov's mother 2007 - Urgent to the room - Krasovskaya 2008 - Anniversary - Anna Sergeevna Granovskaya 2008 - My husband is a genius - Cora Landau 2008 - Postman 2008 - I want a child - Larisa Petrovna Tretyak, Lera's mother 2008 - Paradise apples - teacher Maria Vasilievna 2009 - Grandma Ada - Ada 2009 - Trap - Aloisa Anatolyevna Svetlova 2009 - Autumn flowers - Polina 2009 - Two sides of the same Anna - Valentina Ivanovna 2009 - Breathe with me - Nina Ivanovna 2009 - Puppy - Valera's grandmother 2009 - 2010 - Margosha - Irina Mikhailovna, mother of Andrei Kalugin 2010 - Olympic Village - neighbor 2011 - Dragon Syndrome - Inna Isaeva 2011 - Interns - Marina Aleksandrovna, mother of Anastasia Kisegach, grandmother of Gleb 2011 - Caramel - grandmother of Andrei Morozov 2011 - Chiropractor - Anna Andreevna Startseva 2011 - Fights - Zoya Voskresenskaya 2011 - 2012 - Closed school - Claudia Safronova (Theodora Rauber) 2012 - Breathe with me-2 - Nina Ivanovna 2012 - Both fathers and children - Irina Pavlovna 2012 - How to marry a millionaire - Serafima Georgievna 2012 — Hunt for the Gauleiter — Galina Vasilievna Anointed in the 1970s 2012 — Crime by inheritance — Lyudmila Zvyagintseva 2013 — 2021 — Two fathers and two sons — Angela Borisovna, Inga’s mother 2013 — 7 main desires — fairy 2013 — Beautiful to death — Alice Lanskaya, fashion designer 2013 - How to marry a millionaire 2 - Serafima Georgievna 2013 - Lyudmila - Alla Dmitrievna, Vorobyov's mother 2014 - It doesn't happen 2015 - Priest-San: Confession of a Samurai - Ulyana Borodina 2015 - Orlova and Alexandrov - Evgenia Nikolaevna, Lyubov's mother Orlova 2021 - Pure art - Natalya Nikolaevna, art critic 2021 - Pure Moscow murders - Ekaterina Vlasova, 2021 - Someone else's blood - Zina's grandmother, dies in episode 7.
The beginning of filmmaking
The actress played her first small film role in 1961 in Lev Kulidzhanov’s film “When the Trees Were Big.” Lyudmila reincarnated on the screen as the village beauty Zoya. For the 20-year-old “Pike” student, this was an invaluable experience, because next to her on the set were famous masters of Soviet cinema: Yuri Nikulin, Vasily Shukshin, Ekaterina Mazurova.
Although the debut of the young actress was successful, she still had to play bit parts in films for some time. There were also “passing” paintings in her life. In Soviet times, the footage went through multi-level censorship and often ended up on the shelves of film archives.
Soon fortune showed favor to Chursina, and she was approved for the main role in the film “The Don Tale” directed by Vladimir Fetin. The image of the brave and fearless beauty Daria, embodied by Lyudmila, was liked by moviegoers so much that she was recognized as the best actress of the year. The survey was conducted by the Soviet Screen magazine, the most popular periodical in the USSR, which covered news in the field of cinema and television.
This was followed by another strong role in the film “Crane,” which was highly praised by film critics. The role of the main character Marfa Lunina, a young woman who remains faithful to her husband who did not return from the war, became one of Lyudmila’s best film works. Chursina received the RSFSR Prize named after. Vasiliev brothers, and was also awarded the prize for best actress at the San Sebastian International Film Festival. The award to the rising star of Soviet cinema was presented by Audrey Hepburn herself.
After these events, Chursina was invited to Hollywood to sign a three-year contract with one of the American film studios. However, she was forced to abandon the trip abroad due to the harsh condemnation of her Soviet superiors. “Maybe they were afraid that I would play something anti-Soviet or that I would stay there. Or suddenly I’ll undress on the screen. It would be a great shame for the country,” Lyudmila Alekseevna recalled in one of her interviews.
Theater works
Chursina's first appearance on the stage of the Soviet (Russian) Army Theater took place in the role of Nastasya Filippovna in the play “The Idiot”. This was followed by the images of Baroness Shtral in Lermontov’s Masquerade and Ernestina Tyutcheva in Pavlovsky’s production of Farewell Light. Lyudmila Alekseevna played the main characters in the plays “Leningrader” by Chervinsky and “Privates” by Dudarev.
A tall, graceful actress with aristocratic features, she was reincarnated several times on stage as august persons. She represented Empress Maria Feodorovna on stage in Leonid Kheifits' play "Paul I", and Princess Olga in the production of the same name based on the play by Yuri Volkov. To this day, the actress can be seen in the image of Catherine II in the play “The Empress” directed by Olga Glubokova.
Significant film works
The actress starred in films that later became cult classics. They owe their popularity largely to Chursina’s professional work and feminine beauty. After “The Don Tale,” which was a great success at the box office, Herbert Rappaport’s “Two Tickets to a Matinee” was released. Here Lyudmila appeared in the unusual role of a girl of easy virtue. She managed to get used to the role of the seductive Estonian Inka so much that inexperienced viewers took her for a genuine foreigner, as if she had stepped off the cover of a fashion magazine.
After 2 years, the country again saw its favorite actress in the familiar image of a woman with a strong character. Lyudmila Chursina played the main role in Vladimir Fetin’s film “Virineya”. The image of the Siberian rebel beauty, who stood under the banner of the proletarian revolution, was highly appreciated not only by viewers, but also by Soviet film critics. For this role, the actress received the State Prize of the RSFSR for the second time. Vasiliev brothers. A little later, the film “Crane” was released, and Chursina gained worldwide fame.
Afterwards there were works in the films “Across Rus'”, “Gloomy River”, “Yarovaya Love”, in which the actress played the main roles of strong-willed and proud Russian women, capable of heroic deeds in the name of their homeland.
Possessing a cinematic appearance, strong character and great efficiency, Lyudmila Chursina had no shortage of roles. During her long film career, she embodied about 100 female characters on screen. She played in dramas, comedies, tragedies, and detective stories. Today she can also be seen in telenovelas. Thus, in the series “Closed School” Chursina played the role of Claudia Safronova, and in the serial film “Orlova and Alexandrov” she played the mother of Lyubov Orlova Evgenia Nikolaevna.
Lyudmila Chursina
The famous actress Lyudmila Chursina was born literally a month after the start of the war, and this significant event took place right in the evacuation. Since the final destination was Dushanbe, which was then called Stalinabad, the baby was registered there. The first years of her life passed there. And since Lyudmila’s father was a military man, the family subsequently traveled a lot throughout the territory of the “great and mighty”, after which they finally settled in the small town of Velikiye Luki. At school, Lyudmila gravitated more towards the exact sciences and wanted to enter the aviation institute, but a friend asked “for company” to try her hand at theater. As often happens in such cases, the friend “flew by”, and our heroine was accepted into three universities at once. She chose the Shchukin School.
After graduation, Chursina was taken to the Vakhtangov Theater, where, however, she never received big roles; moreover, cinema entered her life seriously and for a long time, which “took” Lyudmila away from the theater stage. Our heroine, of course, returned to the “temple of Melpomene”, having finally registered at the Central Theater of the Soviet Army. But by that time she had already become a star of the silver screen and had the honorary title of People’s Artist of “one-sixth of the land.”
Her debut was the famous film When the Trees Were Big, in which the actress starred as a student. Real success came to her after the film The Don Tale. Then there was a lot more work. Such films with the participation of Lyudmila Chursina as Zhuravushka, Spring on the Oder, Shield and Sword, Virineya, Lyubov Yarovaya, Primordial Rus' and many others have forever taken their place in the golden fund of Russian cinema. In general, during her career the actress did not experience a shortage of offers; the image of a stately beauty was in great demand in Soviet cinema. And even Hollywood could not resist the charms of the star of the Soviet screen, offering a contract for as many as fifteen films. But in those years, going there to film was something out of the realm of fantasy. Lyudmila was not deprived of awards either - even the all-powerful KGB awarded her its prize for her role in the film The File of the Man in a Mercedes. She does not remain unclaimed even now, often appearing both in the theater and on the screen. And Lyudmila Chursina’s roles do not at all reek of old age. It’s enough to remember her in the image of Doctor Bykov’s mother-in-law in everyone’s favorite TV series Interns.
Lyudmila Chursina has gray eyes, naturally dark hair color, fair skin and full lips. The face shape is rectangular, the forehead is high, the hair is straight and soft. Lyudmila Chursina changes her hair color, preferring light brown. The actress has a medium straight nose and a rectangular chin. The actress's height is 177cm, she has no tattoos.
Zodiac sign - Cancer (07/20/1941)
Personal life of Lyudmila Chursina
Surprisingly, the personal life of this beautiful and talented actress did not work out. She was married three times, but with neither husband did she find female happiness or the happiness of motherhood. There are many “blank spots” in Chursina’s biography: she does not like to talk about secrets, calling herself “the queen of spades from the mothball age.” Lyudmila Alekseevna is often asked who she is related to actor Yuri Chursin, suggesting that this is her son, but Yuri is not the actress’s child or even her relative - they are just namesakes.
At 77 years old, the actress is in excellent physical shape. She considers moderation in diet and physical activity to be the secret of her attractiveness. She even comes to work at the theater on foot. Lyudmila Alekseevna avoids plastic surgery, preferring to age beautifully and naturally.
In addition to filming and theater work, Chursina takes part in public life. So, in November 2021, she was the guest of honor at the gala ceremony for presenting the International Stanislavsky Prize.
Family
Lyudmila Chursina’s closest people are her nephew Alexey (the son of her sister who died several years ago), his wife Ekaterina and their children Nastya and Sashenka. “I have to replace both their mother and grandmother,” the actress repeats in an interview.
Children
Chursina does not have her own children. Difficult living conditions, lack of time and constant employment on film and theater sets did not allow the actress to become a mother. But she doesn’t regret it: “I’ve always taken care of someone in this life.” Lyudmila Alekseevna considers her children to be students of one of the capital’s theater universities, to whom she passes on the secrets of acting.
Former husband Vladimir Fetin
Chursina’s first husband was director Vladimir Fetin, whom she met on the set of “The Don Tale.” After finishing their work together, they left - Lyudmila to Moscow, Vladimir to Leningrad, but continued to communicate through letters. Gradually, mutual attraction grew into a strong feeling. The lovers got married.
Fetin filmed Chursina in his films, revealing new facets of her talent. But outside the set, he became completely helpless in everyday life. Lyudmila had to take care of everyday life. Soon the husband began to drink, and life together became unbearable. Chursina loved her husband so much that she did not even think about divorce. She tried to help Vladimir, but in vain. Out of despair, the actress wanted to drown herself in the Neva, but an eyewitness did not allow her to do so.
A meeting with a disabled person helped Lyudmila return to reality: the lack of legs did not prevent the man from enjoying every day. Ashamed of her own weakness, the actress gathered her will into a fist and allowed herself to live on. After 17 years of tossing and turning, she left her husband with one suitcase. Surprisingly, they parted as friends. Chursina looked after and supported Fetin until the end of his days.
Former husband Vladimir Petrovsky
The actress remarried oceanologist Vladimir Petrovsky. Lyudmila was struck by his beauty, masculine charm and independence. In addition, the new chosen one did not drink alcohol at all. Chursina herself invited the scientist to start a family. The couple had been married for 2 years. Lyudmila Alekseevna says the reason for the divorce is that they were never able to become close people.
Former husband Igor Yurievich Andropov
Chursina’s third husband was the son of Secretary General Yuri Andropov, Igor. They met in the company of mutual friends, and in Andropov Lyudmila found an intelligent interlocutor and a gallant man. At that time, Igor Yuryevich was divorced from his first wife, with whom he had 2 children. Their marriage with Chursina lasted 7 years. The reasons for the separation were the incompatibility of characters and too different worldviews of the spouses.
Former husband of Lyudmila Chursina - Vladimir Petrovsky
In the late 70s of the last century, a Soviet cinema star falls in love for the second time. Vladimir Petrovsky becomes her chosen one. He studied the oceans. He was invited to the filming as an expert. The man immediately noticed the artist. He began to compliment her, but at first she did not pay attention to him. But after some time, the fortress fell, and the lovers got married.
During the marriage, the spouses never quarreled, but they did not experience any special feelings. Lyudmila Chursina's ex-husband, Vladimir Petrovsky, filed for divorce. The actress agreed with this. The separation was peaceful, without scandals or accusations. They still sometimes call each other and congratulate each other on the holidays.
